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A versatile, quality piece of Victorian style neckwear at a great price!Perfect for Steampunk, Western, and Victorian outfits, weddings, proms, conventions, and great for neckwear enthusiasts, this Cravat is made from 100% polyester satin, and available in a wide array of colors to match any outfit!This lovely piece of neckwear is the genuine article, not a clip-on dickie, and features long, full, 20” x 6.75” blades, allowing you to tie it in a variety of styles. We’ve showcased four styles here. All you need is one cravat, and you can tie it any way you want!
We’ve been doing cravats for some time, and we pride ourselves on them being somewhat of a specialty of ours. We’ve been through many different iterations and designs, testing variances in lengths, widths, and thicknesses. When we landed on our current formula, we knew we’d struck gold. They are unique in design, with a neckband made to YOUR measurements, and always highly rated.

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steamiscellania:

A versatile, quality piece of Victorian style neckwear at a great price!

Perfect for Steampunk, Western, and Victorian outfits, weddings, proms, conventions, and great for neckwear enthusiasts, this Cravat is made from 100% polyester satin, and available in a wide array of colors to match any outfit!

This lovely piece of neckwear is the genuine article, not a clip-on dickie, and features long, full, 20” x 6.75” blades, allowing you to tie it in a variety of styles. We’ve showcased four styles here. All you need is one cravat, and you can tie it any way you want!

We’ve been doing cravats for some time, and we pride ourselves on them being somewhat of a specialty of ours. We’ve been through many different iterations and designs, testing variances in lengths, widths, and thicknesses. When we landed on our current formula, we knew we’d struck gold. They are unique in design, with a neckband made to YOUR measurements, and always highly rated.

A great store! Needs your support!

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Be the best dressed player at your next poker night!Perfect for a Steampunk gambler, and great for novelty tie and tacky tie enthusiasts, this Cravat is made from cotton fabric featuring a fun gambling theme of different types of game chips and tiles.This lovely piece of neckwear is the genuine article, not a clip-on dickie, and features long, full, 20” x 6.75” blades, allowing you to tie it in a variety of styles. We’ve showcased four styles here. All you need is one cravat, and you can tie it any way you want!

steamiscellania:

Be the best dressed player at your next poker night!

Perfect for a Steampunk gambler, and great for novelty tie and tacky tie enthusiasts, this Cravat is made from cotton fabric featuring a fun gambling theme of different types of game chips and tiles.

This lovely piece of neckwear is the genuine article, not a clip-on dickie, and features long, full, 20” x 6.75” blades, allowing you to tie it in a variety of styles. We’ve showcased four styles here. All you need is one cravat, and you can tie it any way you want!

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Hello Friends, Family, and fans of Steampunk and Cosplay. When Chelsea and I decided to have our wedding, we wanted to pay for everything ourselves, which we knew would be difficult, but we did not want to put undue pressure on our families, and knew we would be proud of having made it. This became even more difficult when the company I was working for let all of their workers in my contact center go, and the only job I could find afterwards with the same hourly pay was part time. I had a passion and a dream, though, of putting my sewing and crafting talents to use by starting a store for steampunk and cosplay enthusiasts.

This store started with the goal of being a one stop shop where people could pay reasonable prices for unique quality items, and it looked like it was going to be very succesful. We became so busy during October for Halloween, just a few months after opening, that I had to take time off from my part time job just to get all my orders finished. Unfortunately, that December, my health took a turn for the worse. I started having attacks of gagging with no obvious cause which caused me to have to go to the emergency room when I just couldn’t stop for hours one day, and I had to spend the next 3 months on disability, unable to really leave the house because I would start gagging and vomiting several hours out of every day.

The issue has never completely resolved, but I was able to return to work with some limitations. Our small business had suffered greatly however, I had to take it down because I couldn’t really do much other than lie in bed all day, and the website it is hosted on uses levels of activity to determine how often your items will show up on searches. When I put it back up, things became very slow.

I found a new job that Summer, which was full time. I did have to pull back on my store activities because of this, I couldn’t really advertise because I wouldn’t have time to do anything. We were able to raise the money for our wedding, and it went off without a hitch, and we’ve been happy since. Unfortunately health concerns have found me having to leave that job, and as of the moment, it is the only work I am capable of. To make matters worse, putting the store on “vacation mode” for our honeymoon further negatively impacted our “relevance” on the site.

We have always been highly rated, right now we are rated 5 out of 5 stars. Our reviews are overflowing with praise. We are proud of making a quality product, we are nearing our 100 order mark, but things are very slow right now.

To bring our store back to where it needs to be, we are asking for donations to help us pay for advertising and materials to make new products to sell. Making things creatively for other people brings me a great sense of satisfaction, and it has become my biggest goal to make this work, but right now things are very tight. We need advertising to make more sales, and we need new products to draw people in, as well as the ability to purchase selling space at conventions.

We know we can succeed if we raise the money we need to get back on top. We’ve been in a very succesful position with our store before, and there is no reason we can’t do the same again once we have the ability to get noticed more and more. We are offering different reward levels for your donations. Anything will help. Please consider helping us make this dream come true.

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Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old an.d camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.

And I fell into the trap of losing my temper and calling you an arsehole instead of giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming your brain is just as good as anyone else’s. You’re right: so many crazy social justice warriors attacking people for the flimsiest of reasons on here makes us all overly defensive and close minded at times. If only we could enter these online spaces with open minds instead of always waiting to pounce. As for where you disagree, I would politely suggest you move away from theories of “in the wild things are like this” and “animals do certain things so therefore we humans are the same”. I’m not saying we humans are not animals at all, but we can’t ever take away the enormous impact our differing cultures have on the way we behave. This is where evolutionary psychologists come undone because they tend to universalise behaviours that are really just unique to a particular subcultural set, and they tend to superimpose behaviours of animals onto human behaviours as a means of universalising that which can never be universalised. The fact is, in the west, we are culturally conditioned from birth to find white male heterosexual masculine men more attractive than any other type of human - via the media of course. This plays an overwhelmingly enormous role in how we all behave sexually, even though we claim it to be “preference”. Furthermore, remember too that standards of beauty and aesthetics change over time and culture. A few hundred years ago being overweight was considered the height of attractiveness because it represented your wealth and status. That fact alone exposes your idea that we are “naturally attracted” to people who are fit as not really correct/defendable: standards of beauty change from culture to culture, and over time. Anyways, glad we are meeting on some common ground, if not totally common ground.

Agreed. An interesting thing to note is that even when different body images have been associated with attractiveness, it still usually comes down to what symbolizes the wealthy. In human society wealth can be seen as the ultimate “fit”-ness from a survival standpoint. An individual’s survival chances go up if they are with a wealthy partner, so whatever rich people are doing is generally what is “sexy”. Now a days it seems rather easy for societal standards from the patriarchy/whatever “powers that be” you wish to refer to, to be programmed into the wealthy. Celebrities, especially this new breed who are famous for nothing but being famous, seem very easy to just pull into any trend if you call it “The next big thing”.
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shetongrindr:

Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old an.d camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.

And I fell into the trap of losing my temper and calling you an arsehole instead of giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming your brain is just as good as anyone else’s. You’re right: so many crazy social justice warriors attacking people for the flimsiest of reasons on here makes us all overly defensive and close minded at times. If only we could enter these online spaces with open minds instead of always waiting to pounce. As for where you disagree, I would politely suggest you move away from theories of “in the wild things are like this” and “animals do certain things so therefore we humans are the same”. I’m not saying we humans are not animals at all, but we can’t ever take away the enormous impact our differing cultures have on the way we behave. This is where evolutionary psychologists come undone because they tend to universalise behaviours that are really just unique to a particular subcultural set, and they tend to superimpose behaviours of animals onto human behaviours as a means of universalising that which can never be universalised. The fact is, in the west, we are culturally conditioned from birth to find white male heterosexual masculine men more attractive than any other type of human - via the media of course. This plays an overwhelmingly enormous role in how we all behave sexually, even though we claim it to be “preference”. Furthermore, remember too that standards of beauty and aesthetics change over time and culture. A few hundred years ago being overweight was considered the height of attractiveness because it represented your wealth and status. That fact alone exposes your idea that we are “naturally attracted” to people who are fit as not really correct/defendable: standards of beauty change from culture to culture, and over time. Anyways, glad we are meeting on some common ground, if not totally common ground.

Agreed. An interesting thing to note is that even when different body images have been associated with attractiveness, it still usually comes down to what symbolizes the wealthy. In human society wealth can be seen as the ultimate “fit”-ness from a survival standpoint. An individual’s survival chances go up if they are with a wealthy partner, so whatever rich people are doing is generally what is “sexy”. Now a days it seems rather easy for societal standards from the patriarchy/whatever “powers that be” you wish to refer to, to be programmed into the wealthy. Celebrities, especially this new breed who are famous for nothing but being famous, seem very easy to just pull into any trend if you call it “The next big thing”.
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everyoneoffendsme:

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shetongrindr:

Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old an.d camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.

And I fell into the trap of losing my temper and calling you an arsehole instead of giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming your brain is just as good as anyone else’s. You’re right: so many crazy social justice warriors attacking people for the flimsiest of reasons on here makes us all overly defensive and close minded at times. If only we could enter these online spaces with open minds instead of always waiting to pounce. As for where you disagree, I would politely suggest you move away from theories of “in the wild things are like this” and “animals do certain things so therefore we humans are the same”. I’m not saying we humans are not animals at all, but we can’t ever take away the enormous impact our differing cultures have on the way we behave. This is where evolutionary psychologists come undone because they tend to universalise behaviours that are really just unique to a particular subcultural set, and they tend to superimpose behaviours of animals onto human behaviours as a means of universalising that which can never be universalised. The fact is, in the west, we are culturally conditioned from birth to find white male heterosexual masculine men more attractive than any other type of human - via the media of course. This plays an overwhelmingly enormous role in how we all behave sexually, even though we claim it to be “preference”. Furthermore, remember too that standards of beauty and aesthetics change over time and culture. A few hundred years ago being overweight was considered the height of attractiveness because it represented your wealth and status. That fact alone exposes your idea that we are “naturally attracted” to people who are fit as not really correct/defendable: standards of beauty change from culture to culture, and over time. Anyways, glad we are meeting on some common ground, if not totally common ground.

Agreed. An interesting thing to note is that even when different body images have been associated with attractiveness, it still usually comes down to what symbolizes the wealthy. In human society wealth can be seen as the ultimate “fit”-ness from a survival standpoint. An individual’s survival chances go up if they are with a wealthy partner, so whatever rich people are doing is generally what is “sexy”. Now a days it seems rather easy for societal standards from the patriarchy/whatever “powers that be” you wish to refer to, to be programmed into the wealthy. Celebrities, especially this new breed who are famous for nothing but being famous, seem very easy to just pull into any trend if you call it “The next big thing”.
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Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old an.d camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.

And I fell into the trap of losing my temper and calling you an arsehole instead of giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming your brain is just as good as anyone else’s. You’re right: so many crazy social justice warriors attacking people for the flimsiest of reasons on here makes us all overly defensive and close minded at times. If only we could enter these online spaces with open minds instead of always waiting to pounce. As for where you disagree, I would politely suggest you move away from theories of “in the wild things are like this” and “animals do certain things so therefore we humans are the same”. I’m not saying we humans are not animals at all, but we can’t ever take away the enormous impact our differing cultures have on the way we behave. This is where evolutionary psychologists come undone because they tend to universalise behaviours that are really just unique to a particular subcultural set, and they tend to superimpose behaviours of animals onto human behaviours as a means of universalising that which can never be universalised. The fact is, in the west, we are culturally conditioned from birth to find white male heterosexual masculine men more attractive than any other type of human - via the media of course. This plays an overwhelmingly enormous role in how we all behave sexually, even though we claim it to be “preference”. Furthermore, remember too that standards of beauty and aesthetics change over time and culture. A few hundred years ago being overweight was considered the height of attractiveness because it represented your wealth and status. That fact alone exposes your idea that we are “naturally attracted” to people who are fit as not really correct/defendable: standards of beauty change from culture to culture, and over time. Anyways, glad we are meeting on some common ground, if not totally common ground.

Agreed. An interesting thing to note is that even when different body images have been associated with attractiveness, it still usually comes down to what symbolizes the wealthy. In human society wealth can be seen as the ultimate “fit”-ness from a survival standpoint. An individual’s survival chances go up if they are with a wealthy partner, so whatever rich people are doing is generally what is “sexy”. Now a days it seems rather easy for societal standards from the patriarchy/whatever “powers that be” you wish to refer to, to be programmed into the wealthy. Celebrities, especially this new breed who are famous for nothing but being famous, seem very easy to just pull into any trend if you call it “The next big thing”.
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everyoneoffendsme:

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shetongrindr:

Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old an.d camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.

And I fell into the trap of losing my temper and calling you an arsehole instead of giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming your brain is just as good as anyone else’s. You’re right: so many crazy social justice warriors attacking people for the flimsiest of reasons on here makes us all overly defensive and close minded at times. If only we could enter these online spaces with open minds instead of always waiting to pounce. As for where you disagree, I would politely suggest you move away from theories of “in the wild things are like this” and “animals do certain things so therefore we humans are the same”. I’m not saying we humans are not animals at all, but we can’t ever take away the enormous impact our differing cultures have on the way we behave. This is where evolutionary psychologists come undone because they tend to universalise behaviours that are really just unique to a particular subcultural set, and they tend to superimpose behaviours of animals onto human behaviours as a means of universalising that which can never be universalised. The fact is, in the west, we are culturally conditioned from birth to find white male heterosexual masculine men more attractive than any other type of human - via the media of course. This plays an overwhelmingly enormous role in how we all behave sexually, even though we claim it to be “preference”. Furthermore, remember too that standards of beauty and aesthetics change over time and culture. A few hundred years ago being overweight was considered the height of attractiveness because it represented your wealth and status. That fact alone exposes your idea that we are “naturally attracted” to people who are fit as not really correct/defendable: standards of beauty change from culture to culture, and over time. Anyways, glad we are meeting on some common ground, if not totally common ground.

Agreed. An interesting thing to note is that even when different body images have been associated with attractiveness, it still usually comes down to what symbolizes the wealthy. In human society wealth can be seen as the ultimate “fit”-ness from a survival standpoint. An individual’s survival chances go up if they are with a wealthy partner, so whatever rich people are doing is generally what is “sexy”. Now a days it seems rather easy for societal standards from the patriarchy/whatever “powers that be” you wish to refer to, to be programmed into the wealthy. Celebrities, especially this new breed who are famous for nothing but being famous, seem very easy to just pull into any trend if you call it “The next big thing”.
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shetongrindr:

Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old an.d camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.

And I fell into the trap of losing my temper and calling you an arsehole instead of giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming your brain is just as good as anyone else’s. You’re right: so many crazy social justice warriors attacking people for the flimsiest of reasons on here makes us all overly defensive and close minded at times. If only we could enter these online spaces with open minds instead of always waiting to pounce. As for where you disagree, I would politely suggest you move away from theories of “in the wild things are like this” and “animals do certain things so therefore we humans are the same”. I’m not saying we humans are not animals at all, but we can’t ever take away the enormous impact our differing cultures have on the way we behave. This is where evolutionary psychologists come undone because they tend to universalise behaviours that are really just unique to a particular subcultural set, and they tend to superimpose behaviours of animals onto human behaviours as a means of universalising that which can never be universalised. The fact is, in the west, we are culturally conditioned from birth to find white male heterosexual masculine men more attractive than any other type of human - via the media of course. This plays an overwhelmingly enormous role in how we all behave sexually, even though we claim it to be “preference”. Furthermore, remember too that standards of beauty and aesthetics change over time and culture. A few hundred years ago being overweight was considered the height of attractiveness because it represented your wealth and status. That fact alone exposes your idea that we are “naturally attracted” to people who are fit as not really correct/defendable: standards of beauty change from culture to culture, and over time. Anyways, glad we are meeting on some common ground, if not totally common ground.

Agreed. An interesting thing to note is that even when different body images have been associated with attractiveness, it still usually comes down to what symbolizes the wealthy. In human society wealth can be seen as the ultimate “fit”-ness from a survival standpoint. An individual’s survival chances go up if they are with a wealthy partner, so whatever rich people are doing is generally what is “sexy”. Now a days it seems rather easy for societal standards from the patriarchy/whatever “powers that be” you wish to refer to, to be programmed into the wealthy. Celebrities, especially this new breed who are famous for nothing but being famous, seem very easy to just pull into any trend if you call it “The next big thing”.
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endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

shetongrindr:

Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old an.d camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.

And I fell into the trap of losing my temper and calling you an arsehole instead of giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming your brain is just as good as anyone else’s. You’re right: so many crazy social justice warriors attacking people for the flimsiest of reasons on here makes us all overly defensive and close minded at times. If only we could enter these online spaces with open minds instead of always waiting to pounce. As for where you disagree, I would politely suggest you move away from theories of “in the wild things are like this” and “animals do certain things so therefore we humans are the same”. I’m not saying we humans are not animals at all, but we can’t ever take away the enormous impact our differing cultures have on the way we behave. This is where evolutionary psychologists come undone because they tend to universalise behaviours that are really just unique to a particular subcultural set, and they tend to superimpose behaviours of animals onto human behaviours as a means of universalising that which can never be universalised. The fact is, in the west, we are culturally conditioned from birth to find white male heterosexual masculine men more attractive than any other type of human - via the media of course. This plays an overwhelmingly enormous role in how we all behave sexually, even though we claim it to be “preference”. Furthermore, remember too that standards of beauty and aesthetics change over time and culture. A few hundred years ago being overweight was considered the height of attractiveness because it represented your wealth and status. That fact alone exposes your idea that we are “naturally attracted” to people who are fit as not really correct/defendable: standards of beauty change from culture to culture, and over time. Anyways, glad we are meeting on some common ground, if not totally common ground.

Agreed. An interesting thing to note is that even when different body images have been associated with attractiveness, it still usually comes down to what symbolizes the wealthy. In human society wealth can be seen as the ultimate “fit”-ness from a survival standpoint. An individual’s survival chances go up if they are with a wealthy partner, so whatever rich people are doing is generally what is “sexy”. Now a days it seems rather easy for societal standards from the patriarchy/whatever “powers that be” you wish to refer to, to be programmed into the wealthy. Celebrities, especially this new breed who are famous for nothing but being famous, seem very easy to just pull into any trend if you call it “The next big thing”.
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endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

shetongrindr:

Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 

"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.

"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.

I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 

Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old an.d camp, spit on the floor, and leave.

But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.

Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.

By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.

So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?

Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.

And I fell into the trap of losing my temper and calling you an arsehole instead of giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming your brain is just as good as anyone else’s. You’re right: so many crazy social justice warriors attacking people for the flimsiest of reasons on here makes us all overly defensive and close minded at times. If only we could enter these online spaces with open minds instead of always waiting to pounce. As for where you disagree, I would politely suggest you move away from theories of “in the wild things are like this” and “animals do certain things so therefore we humans are the same”. I’m not saying we humans are not animals at all, but we can’t ever take away the enormous impact our differing cultures have on the way we behave. This is where evolutionary psychologists come undone because they tend to universalise behaviours that are really just unique to a particular subcultural set, and they tend to superimpose behaviours of animals onto human behaviours as a means of universalising that which can never be universalised. The fact is, in the west, we are culturally conditioned from birth to find white male heterosexual masculine men more attractive than any other type of human - via the media of course. This plays an overwhelmingly enormous role in how we all behave sexually, even though we claim it to be “preference”. Furthermore, remember too that standards of beauty and aesthetics change over time and culture. A few hundred years ago being overweight was considered the height of attractiveness because it represented your wealth and status. That fact alone exposes your idea that we are “naturally attracted” to people who are fit as not really correct/defendable: standards of beauty change from culture to culture, and over time. Anyways, glad we are meeting on some common ground, if not totally common ground.

Agreed. An interesting thing to note is that even when different body images have been associated with attractiveness, it still usually comes down to what symbolizes the wealthy. In human society wealth can be seen as the ultimate “fit”-ness from a survival standpoint. An individual’s survival chances go up if they are with a wealthy partner, so whatever rich people are doing is generally what is “sexy”. Now a days it seems rather easy for societal standards from the patriarchy/whatever “powers that be” you wish to refer to, to be programmed into the wealthy. Celebrities, especially this new breed who are famous for nothing but being famous, seem very easy to just pull into any trend if you call it “The next big thing”.

Tumblr is cloud cuckooland. And it’s citizens are all Princess Unikitty.

Emmet: I’m just gonna come right out, I have no idea what’s going on or what this place is at all.

Unikitty: Hi! I am Princess Unikitty, and I welcome you all to Cloud Cuckoo Land!
Emmet: So there are no signs on anything. How does anyone know what not to do?
Unikitty: Here in Cloud Cuckoo Land, there are no rules: There’s no government, no baby sitters, no bedtimes, no frowny faces, no bushy mustaches, and no negativity of any kind.
Lucy: You just said the word “no” like a thousand times.
Unikitty: And there’s also no consistency.
Batman: [the clown and the lizard man are dancing around him] I hate this place.
Unikitty: Any idea is a good idea except the non-happy ones. Those we push down deep inside where you’ll never, ever, ever, EVER find them!
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"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old and camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.
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Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old and camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.
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endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

shetongrindr:

Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old and camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.
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endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

shetongrindr:

Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old and camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.
Zoom Info
endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

shetongrindr:

Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old and camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.
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endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

shetongrindr:

Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old and camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.
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endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

shetongrindr:

Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 
"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.
"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.
I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 
Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old and camp, spit on the floor, and leave.
But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.
Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.
By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.
So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?
Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.
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endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

everyoneoffendsme:

endracismandhomophobia:

shetongrindr:

Do I look like I got time for this?

"I’m just stating what I like", she says, after writing a list of what she DOESN’T LIKE. 

"Who am I disrespecting?" she says, after disrespecting older gay men and effeminate men.

"…u need to check your insecurities," she says, which is a great line coming from someone too insecure to show her face.

I don’t know about you, but when I go to a restaurant, and the waiter comes up to take my order, I sit there for 15 minutes and read the entire menu like this: “I don’t want the chicken, I don’t want the oysters, I don’t want the squid, I don’t want the sweet potato, I don’t want the salmon, etc. etc”. 

Then, after I finish my meal, I tell the owner that their establishment looks old and camp, spit on the floor, and leave.

But, you know, I’m not being disrespectful or anything. It’s just how I show people what I like, and if you got a problem with that, then you need to deal with your insecurities.

I get the whole everyone’s beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing, but all I saw him doing is telling people in advance what he is not sexually into. It’s a hookup site, just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean he is required to want to bang all of them. If he wants to tell them he’s not into it all at once to save both himself and them the time and disappointment, I don’t see why he can’t. I doubt some old person or feminine man came by this page, felt personally insulted and wanted to slit their wrists because this one particular ass didn’t want to fuck them.

Also that menu analogy is horrible. Menu items don’t try to order you.

I usually don’t resort to name calling on here, preferring instead to use reason and logic to make my case, but in this instance I think I should make an exception and just call a spade a spade: you just sound like a massive, grade A asshole who lacks a basic understanding of respect and of the mediums modern gay men use to interact. It’s been such a long time since I’ve heard the flawed logic you just used that I’d actually forgotten there were still gays in this world who thought such basic-assed things. Furthermore, you should probably never again write the sentence “I get the whole everyone is beautiful and you shouldn’t put people down thing”, because clearly you don’t “get” that at all. There is no difference between saying ageist or femmephobic things on your profile and saying racist things on your profile. Despite your insane belief that these offensive profiles are just saving other people time (yeah because insulting groups of people is so helpful!) and that somehow an app used primarily (but not solely) for hooking up means normal ideas of respect and recognition of others are suspended, there is a growing number of queers who think it’s high time we treat our fellow queers with respect, courtesy, and sensitivity, instead of a long list of harsh, unrepentant NOT INTO’S. And whilst you don’t happen to think any older people (they’re not “old people”, they’re “older people” you cretin) or effeminate identifying people would be bothered by this profile, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be. I know everything I’ve just written will wash over you like water off a duck’s back because there’s never a point in attempting to reason with a complete bastard such as yourself, but I’m not responding for your sake. I’m responding so that anyone who happens to read the rubbish you just spat out can see there’s an alternative to your mean spirited sense of what’s acceptable and what’s not. And clearly, based on the likes this post has already received, it would seem most other people would agree with me.

So, what, if you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of age, that makes you ageist? If you’re not sexually attracted to someone on the basis of them being overweight that makes you weightist? Sorry, not buying that. It’s like calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women. None of us can control our sexual preferences, and if I don’t think someone in their 60’s is sexy, that doesn’t make me ageist. It means I have a preference, and I have every right to not want to have sex with someone in their 60’s.

By your logic, the fact that there is even a gay hookup site to begin with would be offensive, because by it even existing, all they men are basically screaming “women, go away, ew, I don’t want to have sex with you” the same way it’s wrong to scream “75 year old dude, I don’t want to have sex with you”.

So, let’s say he didn’t have all that stuff on his profile. Someone who he doesn’t find attractive comes by and asks for a sexual encounter… Are you saying that if he doesn’t accept on the basis of not being attracted to someone because say, they’re not his preferred body type, he’s being anti-effeminate? He has to agree to the sexual encounter with a person he’s not attracted to in order to be correct?

Once again, not buying it. Doesn’t work that way. Just because everyone is beautiful doesn’t mean everyone has to find everyone else in the world sexually attractive in order to not be a bigot.

If you think my argument is “if you are not attracted to everyone, then there’s something wrong with you and you must be a bigot”, then you aren’t understanding what I’m writing. This is not about attacking people for having sexual preferences, even if we accept those “preferences” are usually the result of a racist/sexist/ageist system that conditions us all from birth to find a particular aesthetic more attractive than anything else. This is about using language that excludes and denigrates in our online profiles, even though the use of this language is redundant and unnecessary. If the profile above focused ON WHAT HE LIKED (and no, saying things like WHITES ONLY, MASC4MASC, REAL MEN ONLY is NOT acceptable either) in a positive way, there would be no problem. It’s really time for gays to start behaving in a respectful manner towards each other instead of being such major league arseholes in online spaces. All of the “logic” you think makes sense to your argument is deeply, deeply flawed. All of it. I’ve heard all of it before and addressed it thousands of times on my blog. You are basically arguing against me using examples that I agree with. For example, I agree with you that calling a gay man sexist for not being attracted to women is ridiculous. And similar examples I would also agree with. I’M TALKING ABOUT HOW UNNECESSARILY OFFENSIVE THIS PROFILE’S LANGUAGE IS, NOTHING MORE. Let me use another example: if a gay male wrote NO ASIANS on his profile, he would be unnecessarily offending Asian gay males who deal with a lot of exclusion in the gay community. Yet if the profile didn’t say NO ASIANS, and it’s creator received a message from an Asian, he could simply say “Thank you but no thanks”. Or he could just not respond. THE SAME THING HE WOULD DO IF A WHITE PERSON HE DIDNT FIND ATTRACTIVE SENT A MESSAGE. Get it? The language is unnecessary, and NOT using it causes the Grindr user no harm at all. But using that language does have the potential to cause harm to others. This is basic, basic, basic, basic shit here. I created a page called Gay School which addresses these issues and others, you should check it out. Here, I’ll make it easy for you, by providing you with this handy, easy-to-click link! http://endracismandhomophobia.tumblr.com/gayschool101

That would be much more polite. I agree. Didn’t even think about it that way. That and I fell into the trap of once again thinking everyone was being a ridiculous social justice warrior. I’ve got to start ignoring them. But seriously Tumblr is a place full of ridiculously extremist people. The way you explained it this time was perfect. You clarified that it’s not rude because he should find everyone beautiful and sexy, which is what many blogs on Tumblr actually WOULD be stupidly arguing, but that it’s rude because he could simply put up with people he’s not interested in soliciting him, and simply respond that he’s not interested, just like most well adjusted people actually do on dating sites and in real life. Totally, The only thing I will politely disagree with is the idea that the only reason we have sexual preferences is because of bigoted social standards. In nature, sex is used for making babies. Even if you argue that many animals have sex for pleasure, which is impossible to prove, when it boils down to it, the majority of animals pick mates based on traits they find attractive, which are usually the traits that seem on the outside like they will provide the best suited offspring for survival. I’m not going to use that to argue anything about any type of non-hetero sex being wrong, because that’s stupid. There are plenty of gay animals in the world as well as people, and in the end we really do a lot of things much differently from animals any way. In a lot of ways we are the same though. Many traits we find attractive in mates would have made sense in the old system. Fitness is stereotypically sexy because in the wild, strong children would have a higher chance of survival, and so on. Advanced age is stereotypically not sexy because it’s hard to have offspring with someone who is older, and if you do it’s likelier for their to end up being traits in the offspring that would make passing their genes on further more difficult. So, I’m not saying that we all should have sex to have offspring with the highest survival chances, or even to have offspring at all. In humanity, sex is mainly used for pleasure, and that’s perfectly natural, and really preferred at this point with the world being overpopulated, I’m saying that what each individual likes is probably genetic. Society never ingrained it in me to find really muscular women appealing. Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’ve been trying to defame them forever, and I knew the second I saw a female bodybuilder that it was aesthetically appealing. This is only a shallow example, but we are talking about shallow traits here, and while it’s not acceptable to base who you love on shallow things, we are mostly genetically programmed to get “turned on” by fairly shallow things. You have every right to believe this to not be true, that genetics does not determine what we find attractive and unattractive, that it’s really just society, and heck, you might be right, but I don’t personally think it’s likely. In the end, I feel that it’s both genetics and society, and which had the stronger influence depends on the person.

What if

All the souls of humanity are really just one soul, going through reincarnation over and over again, unconstrained by the concept of time, because time only exists in the universe, our egg, where we are growing until we are ready to hatch and become more.